How To Repair Delamination On 2001 Designer Series Motorhome Cab Over
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Since this rig is less than a yr old even by it's build date, I am surprised to see this. I sent this same photograph to Keith at NL this morning to see how he wants to handle it, simply I oasis't heard back from him nevertheless. Stay tuned to see how this plays out.
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EDIT: Obviously, the final resolution may take some fourth dimension. Hopefully you will update this thread, so all information is in one place.
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Reddog1 wrote:
We are looking forward to you getting this resolved. Cheers for posting.
Wayne
EDIT: Plain, the terminal resolution may have some time. Hopefully y'all volition update this thread, then all information is in one identify.
Understood, and you're right, this isn't going to be resolved apace. Hopefully, the Mrs. and my little i will understand considering nosotros proceed to army camp a few times a month fifty-fifty during the winter months.
Photomike wrote:
I am curious, did you endeavour lifting the camper with the jacks? If and then did the bulge go away?
Yes, the bulge is almost unnoticeable when the TC is on the jacks, which should help with the repair.
Wardster wrote:
Photomike wrote:
I am curious, did you endeavour lifting the camper with the jacks? If and then did the burl become away?
Yes, the bulge is almost unnoticeable when the TC is on the jacks, which should assist with the repair.
Whether the bulge goes away irrespective of on or off the truck is unacceptable IMHO. For a new, less-than-1-year old camper a repair should not be necessary for this. Information technology might be indicative of a much more serious nature. Did it do this when yous took commitment or is information technology recent?
d3500ram wrote:
Did it do this when you took delivery or is it recent?
I know it wasn't at that place when I took delivery of information technology because I walked around the unabridged TC looking for any signs before I left the dealership.
When did it actually start? To be honest with yous, I never thought to look for whatever delamination until information technology was mentioned in another thread, so I don't actually know when information technology started. However, I just spent a footling time looking through my pictures and I can barely see information technology in the photograph below, which was taken on September 5, 2022
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Day 1 - I am happy with the progress/responsiveness so far.
Do you notice anything on the other side? One trick the yacht surveyors will use to discover delamination is to tap on the skin listening for a divergence in audio. A delaminated area will sound lower pitched and hollow typically. You don't need to beat on it with a framing hammer, the edge of a quarter coin works pretty well. It might exist hard on a BF/NL camper because there are so many voids in the cadre by design.
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HMS Beagle wrote:
Exercise yous notice anything on the other side?
Nope, the other side is fine.
Possible causes discussed with Keith and my dealer:
1. Loose turnbuckle + large bump
2. Tight turnbuckle + big bump
3. Not enough agglutinative applied to the gel coat ahead of/during the fiberglass installation.
My turnbuckles are installed per TorkLift's specifications and I've never been off route with it, then I am leaning toward Number 3.
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d3500ram wrote:
Wardster wrote:
Photomike wrote:
I am curious, did you try lifting the camper with the jacks? If so did the bulge go abroad?
Yep, the bulge is near unnoticeable when the TC is on the jacks, which should help with the repair.
Whether the burl goes away irrespective of on or off the truck is unacceptable IMHO. For a new, less-than-one-year old camper a repair should not be necessary for this. It might be indicative of a much more than serious nature. Did it do this when y'all took delivery or is it recent?
I agree that it should not do it and it should be fixed.
All I wanted to know with my question is if information technology was a weakness (as would be indicated with the bulge that would go away when put on the jacks) or if information technology was permanently like that(no modify when jacked up) so could exist from the forming procedure of the fiberglass, something pushing against the fiberglass from behind, etc.
If it goes away when jacked up and so I would say something has given mode.
Hope it is stock-still quickly for you!
Wardster wrote:
I purchased my 2022 NL QCSE in April 2022 and recently noticed a bulge forming on the starboard side wing just below the cab over - see below.
Since this rig is less than a year old even by information technology's build engagement, I am surprised to run into this. I sent this aforementioned photo to Keith at NL this morning to run across how he wants to handle it, but I haven't heard back from him however. Stay tuned to see how this plays out.
WOW! That picture looks exactly like my camper did... well, except mine was sometime and bug splattered. I'm surprised to see it happen on a new one.
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Not sure how they are going to fix choice 3 without removing a lot of stuff from the camper to properly get at the bad area which needs more adhesion. Besides, it will be hard to properly get in there to reapply the adhesion and larn a long term repair.
Skilful luck on a quick and long lasting repair.
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If y'all think nigh it, NL and the TC owner have a lot at stake. So does the dealer to a large degree. Stuff happens, and the manufacture has their reputation and product quality to keep intact. Due to the fact manufactures are not immune to mail on RV.Net, it is okay with me if Keith wishes to PM me. Sometimes members make post that would be all-time responded to past the manufacture.
I think it is important to note that we seldom take structural complaints on the NL or Bigfoot TCs. My point is to keep information technology in perspective.
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Since the bulge was virtually unnoticeable when it was on its jacks, Keith wants to initially try to reactivate the gum past heating the area up in the dealer's shop. He said that process takes near 24 hours to consummate, so results volition be determined rather speedily. If that doesn't piece of work, and then they will remove the cab window and inject Sikaflex 252 into the void in an effort to resolve the delamination issue. The dealer is going to let me know tomorrow if he can go me in next week, then either way this should exist a quick repair.
My burl, as discussed in the other post, never showed for years until I got to using it nearly fulltime. Lots of condensation. I recollect the glued failed on mine but won't know till I become to do the repairs.
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Wardster wrote:
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If that doesn't work, and so they will remove the cab window and inject Sikaflex 252 into the void in an effort to resolve the delamination issue.
If the delamination was in the mucilage line, then 1 or both sides will be covered with the original glue, and annihilation injected in the gap will concord no better than the original glue. If the failure is in the cadre, then injecting something might get the core solid once again. It would exist interesting to look down in the gap if the window is out to run into what the failure style really is. You might be able to go a snake camera in there. In whatsoever example this kind of repair attempt is less destructive and does not prevent more drastic measures, if required, later.
shellbackcva59 wrote:
Very unfortunate that information technology delaminated. Hopefully the repair volition solve the problem. I personally wouldn't exist very comfortable with a repair on delamination. I would ask the manufacturer to extend the warranty to cover any failure in the time to come.
Such a key area with the tie downs pulling on the wings. A little imagination can meet it meliorate go fixed correct....
I really appreciate you lot showing this as I see mine needing a strengthener across wing fronts west/ 1 solid member using the fiberglass panels talked about earlier. I say this because the age of my camper is showing slight wrinkles generally spread out beyond this forepart section. Non much only you can meet them information technology in the low-cal.
shellbackcva59 wrote:
I would enquire the manufacturer to extend the warranty to cover any failure in the time to come.
Since nosotros are dealing with essentially a new unit, I nevertheless have over v years remaining on the structural warranty so I should be fine.
The dealer likewise had a fiberglass guy (specializes in boat repairs) stop by to wait at it and he doesn't empathise enough most the construction of the TC to make a call regarding the repair. Specifically, they don't know what the cantankerous department looks like through the delaminated area, so they sent additional pictures and left a message with NL to get their opinion earlier they get whatsoever further.
While it's highly unlikely, he said that NL may want the unit of measurement sent dorsum to them, so they can investigate the problem in their factory and make the repair at that place. That's an expensive trip from Ohio to the NL facility in B.C.
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In the photograph, I have cut out the foam and luan from the fiberglass.
I had a lot of disintegration of the foam so I replaced that section. You can see the crossection vertically in the center of the photo.
I don't come across whatsoever reason your foam would not be fine...its a brand new camper... so y'all could probably remove the window and get agglutinative into that area using a slice of tubing on the end of the caulking gun.
Sikaflex is really thick and hard to get distributed. Get a couple deep pharynx clamps on it and clamp information technology upward. I don't call back it will be difficult to fix.
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shellbackcva59 wrote:
Trying to repair a laminated section without consummate dis assembly is iffy. You will never be sure if the adhesive got to all the areas needed. Crazy expensive to ship it dorsum for a mill repair though.
They but delivered three new units to the dealer last calendar week. That would take been a good time to take mine back if they were considering it.
rhode trip wrote:
Did you wait at the link I posted?
I did see your link and I really mentioned it to my dealer when the issue first came upwardly. The dealer is taking the position that he is only interested in doing what Keith wants and I can't say that I blame him. He besides said that Keith still thinks that this was an consequence with the necktie-downs and some bumps I might have hit, and that's troubling. I've never been off-road and my FastGuns were installed properly (confirmed by the dealer), and so they need to let go of that theory.
I understand how strong stress skin panels are. I've worked on a few. I had a Palomino 8801 that was fabricated that way. Very strong, but the glass was merely 1/sixteen" thick and it had an aluminum frame around the edge of each panel.
I idea that both BF and NL were made like a boat, which has a few frames and the transom glassed into the hull only nearly of the forcefulness in the thickness of the molded fiberglass which is a factor of only fiberglass lamination.
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Joe417 wrote:
I've been interested in both the NL 10-2 and BF x.four, so are you maxim that the construction of the fiberglass does not support itself? It requires being bonded to the polystyrene and interior paneling to support the structure of the camper?
I understand how strong stress skin panels are. I've worked on a few. I had a Palomino 8801 that was made that way. Very strong, but the glass was only 1/sixteen" thick and information technology had an aluminum frame around the border of each console.
I idea that both BF and NL were made similar a boat, which has a few frames and the transom glassed into the hull but nigh of the force in the thickness of the molded fiberglass which is a gene of only fiberglass lamination.
Right for most if not all structure ridgedness of the camper.
On the Bf the corners are full-bodied with fiberglass strands and quite structurally audio.
The weakness that is obvious is in the spans, not corners.
The spans are enforced past the sandwiched foam...
Both campers survive very well under these atmospheric condition but in that location are the few that exercise not
Why?
Whatever flexing is subject field to stressing of the foam to fiberglass bail....
So the twisting of the camper in any mode will stress that bond, Same equally a woods metallic structure... so what gives?
A Class B motorhome may be a real comparison...
Chassis flex/ twist.. Not a problem
Camper twist flex a problem
Why is the camper flex twist a problem....
Probably deals with how nosotros elect to hold our campers to the frame...
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Joe417 wrote:
I've been interested in both the NL 10-2 and BF ten.4, and so are you saying that the construction of the fiberglass does not support itself? It requires existence bonded to the polystyrene and interior paneling to support the structure of the camper?
I empathize how stiff stress skin panels are. I've worked on a few. I had a Palomino 8801 that was fabricated that way. Very potent, merely the drinking glass was simply one/16" thick and it had an aluminum frame effectually the edge of each panel.
I idea that both BF and NL were made like a gunkhole, which has a few frames and the transom glassed into the hull merely virtually of the strength in the thickness of the molded fiberglass which is a factor of but fiberglass lamination.
Both these campers and boats rely on the sandwich for stiffness. The Bigfoot skins are around ane/eight inch thick, quite strong in tension only not very stiff in a big panel. They are dissimilar a boat sandwich structure, yous will never see bead lath used as a core, 3 mm luan used as the inner peel, and contact adhesive used in a gunkhole.
On the BF, the basement and front console area which seem to be the problem for the OP are solid plywood under the fiberglass. On my 10.5, 2 layers of three/4 (1.5 inch) all around the basement. Non certain what is in the forepart panel next to the window, probably goes to cream there. For an extra $100 or so per camper, they could employ extruded polystyrene, which would be mode meliorate for this use. Going to real structural core and real cores structure techniques would be a much larger increase in cost.
Joe417 wrote:
I've been interested in both the NL 10-2 and BF x.4, then are you saying that the structure of the fiberglass does not support itself? It requires existence bonded to the polystyrene and interior paneling to support the structure of the camper?
I understand how potent stress peel panels are. I've worked on a few. I had a Palomino 8801 that was made that way. Very strong, but the glass was only i/xvi" thick and it had an aluminum frame effectually the border of each panel.
I thought that both BF and NL were made similar a gunkhole, which has a few frames and the transom glassed into the hull only near of the forcefulness in the thickness of the molded fiberglass which is a factor of only fiberglass lamination.
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Before you discount either make there are a few things to consider. Beginning I have a NL and I love it, I looked at buying a BF when I was in the market and would accept merely found the fit and stop inside of the used BF units that I looked at horrible compared to NL (this was a number of years ago). Both beat builds were similar in overall construction, they may have inverse more recently, but the idea is strong and and then is the product from years ago till today. I take as well sold, or helped people purchase, over a dozen NL's over the years telling people what to await for, what to stay away from then on. Of all those people I accept non heard dorsum from i with issues, not proverb that problems do not happen, but so far fortunately no one that I helped has had an outcome. Also I know of many people with BF'southward that take units and love them with no issues.
So why the bug that we hear most? Well I am sure that both NL and BF would dear it if all units were 100% and never had an consequence but I think it is a simple fact that people are edifice the units and sometimes things such as glue, temperature or force per unit area varies and can cause an issue downwardly the line. I also think at times that we, equally the end users, really push these units and that is when they prove problems. Not that we should not push them merely imagine what would happen to trailers or Class A,B & C's if they were taken in fifty-fifty a few of the easier places that nosotros have our campers. My NL for case has a number of boxing scars from copse, rocks, a cargo trailer and pot holes that would probably destroy other RV's. Doing this will surely show any weaknesses and possibly also create weaknesses over fourth dimension. Again information technology should non exist an escape to play down a failure, but both of these situations (industry and use) can come in to play.
I hope that both manufacturers proceed to work on improving their products, every bit they should if they wait to stay in business, but even with the products beingness produced today I experience that both NL and BF's are superior to many of the other TCers that are on the market and I would non hesitate to buy either one, new or used, and be happy with it. If you lot are buying a used unit exercise all y'all can to check it out for any structural bug (in addition to the regular Rv bug that you should check), load information technology on a truck - take it off the jacks and check for whatsoever issues. If y'all are buying new brand sure that the warranty is activated then you lot are protected.
Wardster wrote:
rhode trip wrote:
Did you look at the link I posted?
I did encounter your link and I actually mentioned it to my dealer when the upshot first came up. The dealer is taking the position that he is only interested in doing what Keith wants and I tin can't say that I blame him. He also said that Keith nonetheless thinks that this was an issue with the tie-downs and some bumps I might have hit, He also said that Keith yet thinks that this was an effect with the tie-downs and some bumps I might accept hit, and that's troubling. I've never been off-road and my FastGuns were installed properly (confirmed by the dealer), and then they need to let go of that theory.
I'd be adamant that Keith gets that thought out of his head immediately! Sounds like a BS excuse not to take the responsibleness that in that location could be a failure in the bonding of construction materials.
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Wardster wrote:
Keith wants to see/fix the TC at their factory, so it will be heading back on one of their trucks later on they make a delivery to on of the eastward coast dealers side by side week. I know information technology will be an expensive journey at that place and back, but I am happy that he made the call.
Absolutely the correct call for a new camper.
Keep us posted to the consequence. Hopefully you'll have it dorsum for leap!
Skillful luck, Bill
I as well am glad that NL wants to take a look....
I have faith in NL to exercise the right thing.
Jim
Wardster wrote:
Keith wants to come across/set the TC at their manufactory, so it will be heading back on i of their trucks after they make a delivery to one of the due east coast dealers next week. I know it will be an expensive journey there and back, only I am happy that he made the call.
That'due south good news. Hopefully you volition become information technology dorsum in time for spring camping.
shellbackcva59 wrote:
Did your camper brand information technology back to the manufacturer all the same?
Yep, Keith let me know via email terminal dark that it arrived back at their facility over the weekend and that they started the repairs yesterday. He indicated that he would go along me updated on progress, but expects to send it back to the dealership in approximately three weeks on another load heading to the eastern U.South.
K Mac wrote:
Did they tell you what was the definitive cause?
He didn't mention a cause in the email, then we may never know. I'grand merely happy that it got fixed.
An unfortunate incident...only NL did the right thing and chosen the unit dorsum in for repair.
That'south a solid visitor.
Adept luck, safe travels, Bill
billtex wrote:
Hopefully repaired to your satisfaction.
An unfortunate incident...but NL did the correct thing and chosen the unit dorsum in for repair.
That's a solid company.
I couldn't hold more about calling it back to the factory and I'chiliad sure the guys there did a neat job fixing information technology. They too replaced the Hekki skylight because the screen wouldn't close properly, one of the interior lights because the switch was not functioning properly, and both front end Happijacs (not exactly sure why both were replaced, but one was popping when we unloaded the TC at the dealership). They also installed an upgraded aluminum sewer holder cap because the existing plastic one wouldn't stay airtight.
I was hoping to add together a boat rack to information technology earlier it came dorsum, but the DW shot that idea down.
Is anything made right and not cheapened out these days?
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Wardster wrote:
Northern Calorie-free is going to take care of the effect
Does it sound like it volition take to go back, or practise they plan to have someone local exercise the repair? I'm non certain how y'all repair something that is more or less composite construction. I would remember it's a i and done build. At this point I'll bet the manufacturer wished he had just gutted your camper and installed everything in a new vanquish.
d3500ram wrote:
Wardster... Call me crazy, but did I read where NL was going to provide a new unit?
I can't say if you are crazy or not, only I read that, too. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.trailerlife.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
jimh425 wrote:
d3500ram wrote:
Wardster... Telephone call me crazy, but did I read where NL was going to provide a new unit?
I can't say if you are crazy or not, but I read that, too.
So did I! What's up?????
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shellbackcva59 wrote:
I'm not sure how you repair something that is more or less composite structure. I would think information technology's a i and washed build.
Actually composite is quite piece of cake to repair, merely requires different skills than you typically notice in an an RV shop. Accept it to a boat repair place. They deal with stuff like this all the time.
HMS Beagle wrote:
shellbackcva59 wrote:
I'm not sure how you repair something that is more than or less composite construction. I would think it'due south a ane and done build.
Really composite is quite like shooting fish in a barrel to repair, just requires different skills than you typically find in an an RV shop. Take information technology to a boat repair place. They bargain with stuff like this all the time.
Problem is, admission to the area that needs repair is problematic. In this case... I believe it is in a difficult area... Gut the interior or area that needs access to the insides and re-do.... I practice non believe it would be a pleasant experience... Equally some on RV.net have done to Bfoots and Nlights.
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HMS Beagle wrote:
"not easy to repair" with a staple gun, some 2x2 pine, and some tin, true.
I'm not certain who is repairing using those supplies, but those wouldn't be helpful with my TC either. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.trailerlife.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/grin.gif "grin")
In the OP instance, information technology sounds like at that place was a core structural trouble which wouldn't have been piece of cake to set on whatever type of construction. ![[emoticon]](https://forums.trailerlife.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
There are reasons that at that place is more one construction method and tradeoffs of each.
Luckily, that type of failure is extremely uncommon.
This merely one-half the problems I had.
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It'southward probably always been like this, but we just notice it more. I realize it's best to motion on, remember positive, go enjoy life with your RV the all-time yous tin can. It'due south hard to let go sometimes though when one had to spend an inordinate amount of time getting things correct.
As an example of enjoyment. I take groovy plans for a great rv risk this summer. Just the anticipation is great enjoyment.
I sincerely hope all other NL owners take great fun with lilliputian or no bug. I think well-nigh take found that to be true.
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JRJR wrote:
This is get-go to worry me. I pick up our new NL on April 2nd.
John
John like others I would not worry that much. NL builds a very prissy camper. My 811 is a nifty camper accept where I take messed upwards.My only complaint with my 811 is that whoever put the wallpaper on the inside must have done information technology in the middle of the night without lights.
Other than that I love information technology.
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gturnbul wrote:
I'm facing a similar problem with my NL ix.6QSE Bought it new in June, 2022. Of form I'm 5 months past any warranty coverage. I have bulges on both sides of the camper at the cab over. Was your unit of measurement ever fixed? How?
His unit wasn't stock-still. Information technology was replaced with a new one. I'd give Northern Lite a phone call.
KKELLER14K wrote:
I will never purchase new or a unit of measurement that has blended siding ever again...the OP is lucky...really lucky. Had this been 5 years old...you would have been shown the door. They are all in it for turn a profit...period. I don't care who says who builds the best...I take been turned away myself on a delam issue by supposedly one of the best...between my dealer and the factory. Who wants to pay for a defective production and await months to have information technology stock-still? Build a tiny home with replaceable siding or any RV you can repair yourself is where I'm at with an outcome like this these days. Be warned and learn something here...this is a great existent globe experience. OK I feel improve now...lol. No but in brusk, be prepared to carry the burden and encumbrance of having to pay to have it stock-still...it happens all the time to good people...and not all turn out this style.
I hold that it would exist a devastating thing to occur and we all hope that the mfg will provide some if not all the compensation needed to right this kind of problem...
I and 100'south of others have had no problems with our Fiberglass trounce campers, just lucky or something else underlying, who knows.
We have had our Bigfoot for 16 years and it has traveled almost 200,000 miles over some extremely crude roads riding on our stiff Ford f250 suspension... The Dalton Highway Alaska and the dirt rock roads in the dorsum lands of Utah etc... We take some cracks in the Gelcoat in a few places and that is it...
Think there have been more Delam's of Chill Fox, Lance and others, especially the nose and under the cabover than Northern Lites and Bigfoots, along with premature ROT in the side lower wings... And in the early on days of Filon etc siding... Oh my.
Jim
KKELLER14K wrote:
I volition never purchase new or a unit of measurement that has composite siding ever once again...the OP is lucky...really lucky.
What are y'all calling blended? BTW, should probably exist a different thread.
Certain manufacturers are prone to take bug with delamination and those tend to be upkeep brands, as shown past the TC shown in the motion-picture show below. This unit was really on the sales lot in April 2022 and was brand new.
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I recently endemic a fiberglass gunkhole that was a premium brand. It developed spider cracks in the floor in the sixth year of ownership. The warranty had expired afterwards 5 years. The manufacturer was responsive to my documentation and performed a complete manufacturing plant repair. It was an extensive replacement of the unabridged floor of the fishing deck and took 2 months as the boat was incorporated into the factory floor menstruum. This kind of customer service may be rare but DOES exist in companies with good business ethics. I have establish these companies tend to be family owned and are usually not in the business organisation of edifice things on the slimmest of margins.
From what I take seen of the RV industry it has a long way to go to get u.s.a. to the perfect camper, but information technology does appear that some brands are giving it at least lip service. Equally the economy swings simply those companies that have good reputations and customer loyalty will persevere. Those that ignore their consumer base do so at their own peril.
This thread has a lot of discussion of NL and it is a lot to digest. I do know that NL is a brand that I would definitely consider when I decide to replace my current unit. While a company cannot peradventure make every client happy every time, there is at least considerable pressure level to do and so in this twenty-four hours of enlightened consumers and the web.
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What can I say...exist prepared? This is the very reason I rolled into something older and that I could fix myself with a replaceable siding...I lost my a$$ on my last TC that I had custom made....Have y'all seen my pictures of the rear delam because of a speaker leak? Well here you go....not covered says the man...MMM..what?? Been at that place wrecked that. Oh and BTW insurance does not comprehend water damage...cheque your policy.
Forest River Forester 2401R Mercedes Benz.
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